xbox one

Yeah... that seems about right...

Yeah that's more or less what I got from the whole presentation...

"This is the new generation of Xbox where you will enjoy the new Halo [pause] TV series" then everybody left the room...

Some people are actually quite pumped about this... Oh! While I'm at it... You'll have to pay extra to play previously owned games... Nice!

the only way this will survive is if its hacked the first week that comes out and people start downloading games , play old games without paying , instaling windows 8 , linux and osx on it ... if not , its dead

Honestly I think people are giving it a little too much unfair crap. It's a console reveal 2 weeks before E3. They aren't gonna show a ton of games because then what do they do during the E3 press conference? It was a good reveal in my opinion. The tech seemed sound. Pre-rendered cutscenes yes, but if those are that good on the system, then that's a decent indication of the in game graphics. I'll reserve judgement once E3 is finished, but at this moment, I'm definitely going Wii U, Xbox One, and PC (well ok, Mac until I save enough for a gaming rig).

Well, while I'm not saying the console is bad, you have to admit that once someone has paid full price for one of their games, having to pay AGAIN because you've bought it second hand is kind of being robbed...

Someone buys it for 60$, then I buy it from him for 10$... End of story, why should I also pay Microsoft a game they've already sold and got paid for?

Yuri, I'd agree with you, until someone I know made a very good point. Steam does the same thing Microsoft is doing. In America, there is no such thing as a used PC game. CD Keys and other methods have made used PC sales nonexistent. In fact, most major retailers, if not all, do not buyback used PC games.

This is countered by relatively common sales, unless the game is massively popular. So basically, I think Microsoft is bringing PC practices to consoles. Now if they do the sales practice, I think more people will open up to it, since that's how it's done on PC. Personally, I buy all my games new, unless it's discontinued, so this doesn't affect me.

I buy most of my PS3 games second hand so that would affect me But even if you take us out of the equation, once you've bought something it's yours and you should be able to sell it or lend it if you feel like it... That's why I hate stuff like DLC's you can't lend or resell...

And just because Steam took on a bad habit doesn't make it OK to do the same...

Anyway, I always rant about shit developpers come up with... Like when the Wii came out, it was region locked... Why would Nintendo do that when the Nintendo DS wasn't? I know I was planning on buying a Wii when it came out, but since I'm here I could only get the korean version, which meant no english menus or anything, anf i a game wasn't available in English, I wouldn't have been able to buy it online and play here.

Other stupid stuff... When I bought Diablo 3, I found out that versions sold in Europe wouldn't work here because I wasn't playing from a computer that had european IP address... I h ad to buy the "international" version that cost more than any "local" version... So stupid! Just imagine you complete game collection stops working if you move to another country for work or studies... That's so lame...

The problem is that the days of a game being yours when you buy it are long gone. I remember those days, because I grew up with the SNES when that concept was real. You bought it, you owned it. Unfortunately, the attitude is that you do not buy the game, but that you buy a license to play the game. The game itself is not yours, only your ability to play it. Bad logic I agree, but that's how it is.

All I know. If xbox 1 has internet fee, its a no go for me xD ill stick with my ps3 and compooter. Don't very much like the ps4 idea either

I am going to wait until E3 before coming to a full conclusion, but so far my hair isn't standing on end -- especially with the Halo series announcement. I mean, come on, the miniseries has been out for a while, and goddamnit don't you dare Hollywood-ise one of my favorite game universes. *shakes fist angrily*

I'm more pumped for PS4.

I feel like the PS4 announcement was worse. Touch plate on controller? Share button? Light bar? Honestly I felt so much less impressed with the PS4 than the Xbox One.

And Maddy, I'd trust Steven Spielburg with anything. That man makes gold with film.

Logan wrote:I feel like the PS4 announcement was worse. Touch plate on controller? Share button? Light bar? Honestly I felt so much less impressed with the PS4 than the Xbox One.

And Maddy, I'd trust Steven Spielburg with anything. That man makes gold with film.

I think mostly I've just been more impressed with Playstation over the years, and so when next gen consoles get announced, my opinions get a little biased. But hey, I've always been a Coke AND Pepsi kind of gal -- so I know I'll get both no matter what. lol

Even a mastermind can make a flop. I just get a little antsy when video games get put into film. They're my babies!

what pisses me off with this machines is that they could be a lot more then a stupid box to connect to the tv ... ps3 did a great move at launch alowing people to install other OS ... and then remove it not sure why cose they got jailbreaked anyway.

i like windows more then OSX or any linux gui ... and i always prefer playstation .. never had a xbox, i tryed some games at the store and it felt wierd.

now i use my ps3 mainly to watch movies ... so i can say the xbox tv remote aproach is not a bad idea .. but for a launch they should IMO focus on the tech side .. because hardware launches are for hardware geeks ... the casual consumer will not watch people talking about a black box for 2 hours .. that is where in my opinion they failed completely.

they should be talking about giga flops multi cores and stuff that sounds like sci fi .. instead of showing stupid tv programs for house maids and american football for drunken husbands ...

rant off . i need to go back to work

Maybe I'm just one of the few people that want my gaming consoles to just play games. I don't need it to "take over my living room" I just want to play games on it! I'm sure it will be a great machine for some people, but it's just not for me.

Mike, can you actually explain that point of view to me because it's never made sense. If something has a bunch of added useful features that don't detract from the consoles ability to play amazing games, then where's the problem?

I would rather have them focus on making the game play experience more fun and come out with better exclusives. Sure they say they are coming out with 15 but I'm sure most of those will be for Kinect, now that Kinect is needed to use the system. Also adding in Halo, Forza, GoW, and few other xbox only franchises. Will these 15 exclusives really be all that great?

I just hope they spent as much time on the gaming aspect as they did the tv and sports. If they did, great! It might be a console worth looking into. So far the only Exclusives I've seen that I really want to play have been for the playstation.

I hear you there. I think the reveal for the X1 is basically being broken into two parts. The first part is the tech and new multimedia features. The second part, which is the E3 Microsoft conference, will no doubt focus more on games.

In my opinion the reveal was kinda weak, but I'm still getting it. I'm hoping they are just holding everything back for E3. Just I'm getting really annoyed with Xbox loving on Call of Duty so much. Honestly that game is utter garbage and needs to die like Guitar Hero finally did. But I love Xbox and Microsoft and cant wait to see what they bring to the table at E3.