Guild Wars 2 Release

Dear Guild Leaders of the alliance.

The time as come for us to decide the future of our alliance. I have heard that some of the guild leaders are willing to make their own separated guild on gw2. I will on this thread fight for a different future. A future where our alliance is still a alliance and where we all play for the same goals.

a quote from this http://www.guildwars2junkies.com/2012/06/25/five-reasons-to-love-the-guild-system says " You can be a member of multiple guilds simultaneously with a single character. Keep in mind that you can only choose to represent one of those guilds at a time."

This leaves us with 2 options.

1 - each guild of the alliance creates a guild , and each member is part of their own guild and adds the others guilds of the alliance on the guild rooster but can only represent their own guild. witch means there will not be a better reason to party up besides being old friends from gw1 alliance. and their guild rooster is full with guilds they already know, leaving no space for new and random guilds. might not have space for all the guilds in our alliance even.


2 - We create a new guild with all the members from the alliance ! my vision is to even create a new name, something like " Alliance of Lightness " can be discussed ... and have everyone in the alliance play for the same goals , fight for the same influence.

- Hierarchies - i have noticed that there are many permissions that can be setup , its not just leader , officer and member. I think we could have more then one person with full permissions , so instead of having one guild leader , all the current guild leaders would have full permissions.

- Multiple Guilds - each person besides being on our united guild would have all the guild slots empty to join random guilds and meet new people.

Army of Lightness - I have a feeling if we dont do this , the alliance will be reduced to very inactive accounts on guildwars1 and on the forum ... imo it doesn't make sense for us to separate what was so hard to unite.


After the guild system was revealed, I would like to know what other alliances are doing , but i think the natural way to do it is to merge the alliance into one guild, . in the beta we could see that we didn't have enough room to add 10 guilds, that for me says what Anet is planing for alliances to do. Im sure they dont want us to just go apart on our own ways , they want us to form one united strong group of players. and the empty guild slots are for random guilds that will eventually lead into new players, a new style of recruiting.

I wish we can group all leaders somehow and discuss this, if not on mumble or ingame .. lets do it here.

Neo I am all for your second option a single guild will yield many more advantages, that way we can still have the ally based chat that we do now. You can count on my support ....

I've copied and posted this on the RLR site in the officers section so I can get their feedback on it . Though I am the Gl of RLR I have always run it on a majority rules (officers) basis and can't be sure how they all feel. I know a few who are opposed, others say they will follow me whatever I decide and others I'm unsure of. I love this Alliance and would be extremely sad to see it fall apart but I have to think of my members as well.

Kiera sums it up very well and i find myself very grateful and blessed for knowing someone who is that insightful. communication between leaders will be key and I will do my best in that regard. I check this site daily and I'll do my best to spend more time on mumble, as long as I can keep the problems it causes to a minimum. As for AoL itself in GW2 I'm looking forward to being a part of it in whatever form it takes.

i sent a emil to anet about this , here is the reply from them


Igor Carlier
12:45 PM (21 hours ago)

to community
Dear Anet

Im sure you know what you are doing

but i would like to have a clear idea of what you are planing for big alliances when moving to gw2 ?

it seams like the actual guild system is not ready to host a big alliance coming from gw1

in my alliance we are willing to merge the whole alliance into one single guild if that is possible in terms of member limit just so we can all play for the guild goals.

instead of finding a third party solution for on screen chat that would not mean anything in-game.

please increase the guild limit to a number that will allow big alliances to stay as a group in gw2.

if this is already possible but requires some work in-game , please inform the community so we can plan what we are going to do when the game starts.

here you can read a thread on this topic - http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/41539-alliance-moving-from-gw1-to-gw2/

neoteo.3975


ArenaNet Community Team community@arena.net
8:42 AM (1 hour ago)

to me

Hello,

Thanks for taking the time to write to us and for your interest.

We’re aware of this topic and are still investigating if anything can be done about this. We cannot guarantee that something will be done before launch but you can report your feedback on the Guild Wars 2 forums during the next Beta Weekend Event.

All the best,
The Guild Wars 2 Team.

i agree with kiera , but i think that is our last option , and the only thing we will have is friends ship , there will be no ingame connection , im afraid without a ingame connection it will not last.

if anet would tells us , dont worry we will implement alliances at some point , then we could rest and wait for it.

what i dont agree with kiera is that making a mega guild would be a issue , i think it could be awsome and i still think its the best option we have to take the best from everyones work and merge it into a blasting group that will get noticed by their achivements.

anyways ... if everything stays like it is now , we will make a clone of our guilds in gw2 and live with what we have.

I feel making a mega-guild IS the issue. it's basically asking current allies on log-in to choose whether they support their home Guild or the allied Guild. I am a HUGE advocate for each Ally-Guild to create in 2, as you've said Neo-

we will make a clone of our guilds in gw2 and live with what we have.

Getting noticed by the achievements, isnt that what EVERY Guild wants to have happen? Whether it's AoL or Liar or HEH, Etc, we all want OUR Guild the one we spend the most time and effort on, to be recognized for what we bust butt to achieve. A mega-guild means that each current ally-guild abandons their ideas and dreams in 2 to come play in a huge hodge-podge spread across servers, wearing a single-tag. I don't feel that's fair to ask or expect from our current Allies.

I'd rather see each GL communicate with one another on their intentions for 2 and how to best keep the friendships forged strong, but yet not being a burden within the GW 2 gameplay or Guild expections (because lets face it... kicking an ally-alt so can invite someone who would be dedicated to that Guild.... easy to see which way the wind would blow right now)

i would prefer to have a alliance system in gw2 , and that gw2 would have alliance goals diferent from guild goals ... but if all we have is a guild system , and no support at all for alliances , what we can do ... i understand any guild doesnt want to lose their identity thats why i think if we merge it should be a new name a new identity ... but now im starting to think that they will implement alliances at some point.

After some Investigation,regarding the Guild system in GW2, seeing that the cap of members would be 100 at the start, the new guild would fill quickly with the current members of AoL. I have been approached by more than one of our members to form a guild. So I am in a quandry myself.. If the cap were to be raised and more members added an option could be to have the mega guild with sub units being headed up by leaders in different prospective servers.. Im pulling whatever little hair i have left .

true , if the guild cap is 100 , then we have no choice and there will be no alliance in gw2.

My officers and I have had long discussions on this topic since it was first posted and they've all been adamant that RLR be a seperate entity, while still maintaining a presence in AoL . There was never any doubt that RLR would be a guild in GW2 since as a guild we have all busted our butts to achieve what we have . I would have let the members of RLR cross over to represent AoL in a mega guild if that was the decision we had come to, but every officer in RLR agreed that In the push for a mega guild RLR would lose it's identity and thereby lose it's family type atmosphere. As far as keeping the Alliance together, We leaders will have to make sure that on our forums (both guild and ally) we focus on finding ways to get our members to group up regularly. We'll have to stress to our members the importance of these forums and mumble and try to get as many of our members to use them as we can. I believe the majority of my officers are already on the AoL sites roster and I'll ask them to set the example for us. Hopefully soon after release this will be a non issue and we'll be able to form a true alliance . I believe this is our best hope for keeping the alliance together until we know for sure what will be done on the guild/alliance front in gw2.

That is a good idea, I will ll look into it more, I have a steam account since css and hl2

Thats sounds like a great idea Hennu. I have a steam account as well I use for some of the other games I play ,haven't looked into the chat aspect of it. But I do get that little pop up everytime any of my friends go online, they seem really reliable, it should be something we might consider..