5-Aug-2010 Note!

*Bows to Queen Kiera*

I think the main issue here is figureheads. They are present on a guild level as the leaders/officers, but on an alliance level, there aren't very many that the majority of active alliance members know.

My suggestion would be to further prod our members to do things like register on forums, get their feet firmly rooted into our community, as well as updating important threads such as the Guild Leader/Officer lists etc. This would be an excellent way for members to know who exactly is organizing the events, and what is going on.

I find that it's a rather difficult step to go out and do something with a random person unless a party is already established. We need more people with the image of being able to reliably start a party, because it is quite disappointing to join an alliance adventure only to find out it's only with one other person. This promotes people to stay in their little enclaves, or worse yet, not interact at all.

As for fixes, there isn't much that comes to mind other than promoting alliance figureheads and maybe making guild activities a bit more focused.

I als noticed we did less stuff in the ally and talked to several people about it.
I think we need to start small and start doing zmissions, zbounties and wanted quest every day. AND ask people in the ally to join because even if u can do it alone u can help and have way more fun doing it together.

Very true with the zm/zb's/wanted quests- Force, most people do those on a regular basis so yelling in Ally-chat for a party-up or hopping into someone else's party would be a great way to get things rolling along!

I remember when a member of ToA left us to join AoL because our global(me) couldn't run dungeons and others were too tied up with their own thing. We need to keep the guilds busy by involving everyone alliance wide. BTW where is Katrue nowadays?

I think were hitting the right notes here, but even if its Just Socializing in the GL or conquering the UW ...i think just shooting from the hip here ..something that we did in a guild long ago ..we had liason officers each of the main guilds officers would talk to the GL's becasue a) you need a cattle prod to get people on the froums sometimes and b)I saw in a previous post, I agree with the figureheading if we keep the lines of commuication soild the community of the whole may benfit. Thats my two cents anyway

i remember guildwars comunity asking to the gw programers they would like to see other guilds rosters in the allience , this way everyone could see who is online in the allience , and make it easyer to start remembering names etc.
the work arround we can think of is to add to the friends list , but that can be very hard to keep updated and to memorize anything.

at the end , the best way is with third party solutions , like the forum ... and the best of all in my opinion , the vent server.

anyway i think its fun to have this quest of trying to make people socialize and have fun toghether , its our eternal quest as members of a guild and allience.

and not forgeting we have real lifes to take care and do the same socialize and have fun ... and work to make it all possible

im very proud of what this allience as done until now ...

Hmmm... I'm usually on when you're at work I believe and I can get help or provide some to those in need without any problem... It's usually pretty open inter and intra guild... I have to admit I don't always remember who I help/helps me, though...

I think we all have different goals with different characters. And the old tried and true still seems to work. When you're doing something like a mission, quest, etc., just post a note in Alliance chat asking if anyone else also needs that mission quest. If they do -- great. Bring them along. Introduce yourself and this way I get to know quite a few others from other guilds.

It's too bad we don't have a bigger friends list. It's the only way to tell if ceratin others from other guilds in alliance are online. I run out of room constantly and have to discard those I haven't talked to in a while.

Just as an aside -- when we were in ToA, one of the requirements for being an officer was helping others out. I realize people are often doing their own thing, etc. However, there are officers that don't help people much, or when asked for help (can you talk to this person and maybe invite them), they give excuses why they can't help, send you to others, etc. This is not the proper behavior for an officer. I think all guild leaders need to stress to their officers the importance of helping others with quests/missions, or requests for invites from guild members, etc. There's more to being an officer than status. It's a commitment to do certain t hings in my opinion.

I was recently turned down by two officers (who shall remain nameless) when I asked them to talk to a potential recruit I was speaking with in Kamadan. We met during a trade and got talking. She was looking for a guild with older people in it as she was in a guild with 10 and 12 year olds mostly and she was my age (eh hem, in her forties!)

I got "Is so-and-so on?" "Talk to so-and-so". "Can I talk to her tomorrow?"

I ended up passing her to a guild leader in another guild and she did end up joining their guild, but that shouldn't have happened. There were two officers on and neither, in my opinion, reponded the way they should have. (i.e." What's her name? Let me pm her right now."

Even when in a mission, if not a time sensitive one, you can ask people to pause if you need to help with something like that. I think others will understand. So some of this is attitude.

When I ask what people are working on, its for a reason. If I'm looking for something to do, and if that person needs something I know how to do, I will offer to join. And I'm not an officer. But that's the spirit I think all officers should have.

I stand behind you 1000% donnilee, the main reason i have not "completed" this game is because i honestly don't like forcing people to do something out of the way, i would rather help a group of people vanq an area i already vanqed because i like the company. I despise H/H and will go out of my way not to do it.

i can honestly say i have never seen an officer push someone to another officer. I will however admit to suggesting they talk to a different officer but its normally cause its something out of my league ie. speed-clears(i send to A C), The Deep(i send to Kiera or BB),Elite Dungeons( i send to Dam if hes on) mainly because i cant do them or haven't had the experience they have in getting it together and having successful runs.

Donnilee is right. THe main reason i disbanded my guild was bad officers (we joke about this so this is not targeting any members of Aol). More officers (not pointing fingers at anyone) should have that intitiative to do. Sry guys i will be back and playing guild wars soon. don't kick kiera! congratz on being new temporary leader of Aol.

Holy Crap! How long have I been Gone?! Kiera is head of the Guild and Alliance now!??! O.O *heart attack*

I guess that means I'll have to start bringing Irish Creme with me to spike the coffee. > : D