non representing members?

im getting bit frustrated at the things goign on atm at best we got 33%-40% of our online members reppin us....talked with few of them in mapchats recently and mostly ogt answers liek " jumped ship after promlems/ignoring"..so im wondering what should be done with these "shipjumpers" thatts chosen to continue to another guild..and now never repping us anymore

i agree o nthat zero btw..... tho i would liek to get some commonly agreed targets and rules for what we want ot recruit and what not

the problems they mentioned mostly were related to the dayle issue... i made then clear that issue is solved but seemed that that did not get any repsosne... the ignore issue is happening mostly same way as what joshua did mentioning in his topic few wseeks back..... might get in team and all but no guidance or understnading ofr the first itrmers

Well, not so sure what to do... I did notice that as well with some guys i played regularly (thinking about sylversurfer). He's representing ARMA apparently but everytime I wisp him he joins the party. I thought it was a WvW thing but he seems just not representing AoL... Haven't not asked why but maybe i'll approach him next time I'm online...

Same thing happens with a member I helped recruiting (sithlord or some name in the like). He's still in roster but just not repping... So I don't know...

Back to forum use and such, I've had a good chat with Tia this week-end (facitiousacct ?) and he's a pretty nice guy... Asked him if he was in forums but he somehow isn't... I tried convincing him to pass by and he said he'd try but he's just usually not on any forums (he's not a forum person).

So he's not checking in here but he's pretty active in game and gchat so yeah... That's better I guess...

I think that since I was quite involved in that little mess, maybe I should talk to them. let me have their names, if you think it would help.

How about a new rank, as we have proposed before, called "Respond or kick" or something along those lines?

We literally kick them (then re-invite them) if they don't respond.

Invites can last for a while if not indefinite period of time, so it would be a fine thing to determine who is actually on: the sooner we do this the better.

Yeah, I think though that for those that are not repping but from an allied guild such as Liar or Boom or RLR, then we distinguish those from the other non reppers.

I'll need the new rank created for me to usher the inactive types into it.

Make sure it's along the lines of "Respond or kick", though. We need a harsh title so people are aware.

I like that idea Beau. I mean it might mean we lose some people who don't want to do it, but we can make those people back.

I can change that time frame too, from 72 hours, if we want to give them say 4 or 5 days or once a week.

I'd say give them 3 or 4 days after their name disappears from that listing before a warning. But another thing to address is that it isn't simply logging on. It involves topic creation as well. It can be something ranging from a game to activies to something like Nemac just posted. But across the board, myself included, we need to post more. Otherwise why bother logging into the forum.

I was gonna say something in line with what Logan just said... It may be OK to request members to check the forums regularly but it also means on our side that we have to provide some regular content (or members can create as well).

The only drawback I see in this idea is, as I've mentioned before, we may lose some member who are active in game but just not that into forums. For example, Desic, Zummy, Tia are pretty active when logged in GW2 but are never seen in the forums...

i have been thinking about adding content to the forums ...

even copy pasting from other sources on regular basis would be better then nothing.

like have one or 2 youtube podcasts posted when ever they come out

and from the gw2 official blog also when something new come out

and have it on the mighty bubble area or something that will go to portal

So I have had some dicussion with 2 members who were not repping and were online.

Basically, both of them had the same reason... They have several toons and are only repping AoL on one of them whereas their other toons are in other guilds.

One of the user was Deviane (character name Camille something...). I started talking to her because I spotted her while waiting for Shatterer but noticed she had been put under our new "reply or kick" status... And besides the first reason that her Camille toon was in AoL and her others were in other guilds (or no guild) she also mentioned that she originally joined the guild to do group stuff like dungeons, etc... but everytime she'd asked on gchat she'd got no response (or negative ones).

Also a while back I had a similar discussion with another of our member who was not repping... It would somehow seem that some members do not rep AoL while leveling a character but are repping on their level 80 chars. What's the reason behind? Not so sure... I try and convince them to rep even they're leveling so at least they can participate in gchat and beneficiate from guild-wide bonuses...

It's funny I've also tried recruiting people who gave me the same answer... They're still leveling and will consider finding a guild once they reach 80. I'm really having a hard time understanding the logic behind...

Anyway, just to give you guys some feedback from members.

most people only join guilds to find people to do the very hard stuff that requires coordination , training , etc ... other then that they are happy with pugs and solos.

to find people that join guilds to make friends and socialize is not easy i think ...

because we are not looking for elite players , hardcore masters of dungeons ... we can and should recruit massively ... as it seams the rate of people leaving and/or not repping is much higher then the recruiting rate .. the guild becomes empty

The problem with recruiting is that GW2 does not really require you to be in a guild as in GW1... Thing is, you do not event need to group up with anyone for most thing as anyone venturing an area will be in your party just by standing there. Dragons and other world events do not require you to party either... So players do not really see the real need of being in a guild, except maybe for the occasional guild buffs. So recruiting is a tad harder... It's still guild wars but it's not...